The Litecoin MimbleWimble proposal is about Fungibility not Privateness. – CoinNewsTrend

The Litecoin MimbleWimble proposal is about Fungibility not Privateness.


A latest article entitled “Breaking MimbleWimble’s privateness mannequin” printed by Ivan Bogatyy has been inflicting a stir because the writer claims of a “new assault” that ‘traces 96% of all (MimbleWimble) sender and recipient addresses in actual time’. The assault prices $60/week of AWS (Amazon Net Providers) one thing that leads Bogatyy to conculde that:

“Mimblewimble’s privateness is basically flawed.” (and) “ought to now not be thought of a viable different to Zcash or Monero on the subject of privateness.”

The issue is that no MimbleWimble (MW) developer has ever claimed the protocol was personal or that it was on par with an asset equivalent to Monero on this regard, as such Bogatyy’s article engages in a false equivalence fallacy. The issues raised had been already identified to these engaged on the undertaking. David Burkett, a member of the Grin++ workforce who helps lead the Litecoin MW implementation, weighed in through twitter, to deal with the state of affairs:

“Actually superior write-up, however none of that is “information”. I’m truly shocked solely 96% was traceable. There are a selection of the way to assist break linkability in Grin, however none are applied and launched but. As I at all times say, don’t use Grin when you require privateness — it’s not there but.”

A counter article from Daniel Lehnberg, a Grin developer, was later printed to offer additional clarification and dispel the factual inaccuracies and sensationalised claims:

“This isn’t new to anybody on the Grin workforce or anybody who has studied the Mimblewimble protocol. Grin acknowledged the flexibility to hyperlink outputs on chain in a Privateness Primer printed on its public wiki in November 2018, earlier than mainnet was launched. This downside encompasses Ian Mier’s “Flashlight assault”, which we’ve listed as one among our Open Analysis Issues.”
“TL;DR: Mimblewimble privateness will not be “basically flawed”. The described “assault” on Mimblewimble/Grin is a misunderstanding of a identified limitation. Whereas the article supplies some fascinating numbers on community evaluation, the outcomes introduced don’t truly represent an assault, nor do they again up the sensationalized claims made.”

Litecoin creator Charlie Lee adopted in a tweet of his personal stating:

“This limitation of MimbleWimble protocol is well-known. MW is principally Confidential Transactions with scaling advantages and slight unlinkability. To get significantly better privateness, you’ll be able to nonetheless use CoinJoin earlier than broadcasting and CJ works very well with MW as a consequence of CT and aggregation.”

The principle attraction of MW and the rationale the Litecoin Core workforce wish to implement help for it, has primarily been its potential to offer community fungibility, future scalability and ‘larger’ (not full) privateness.

Fungibility is derived from the inclusion of confidential transactions (CT) whereby the worth despatched over the community is hidden but verifiable. This implies when interacting with different individuals on the community they wont be capable of look again and understand how a lot Litecoin you personal. Scalability then again comes from the massively pruneable nature of the protocol and the truth that, when paired with extension blocks, the Litecoin community could have a blocksize improve with out the necessity for a contentious arduous fork.

MW presents solely pseudo-privacy and that is what Bogatyy’s article discusses. By snapshotting transactions earlier than they endure the coin becoming a member of course of it’s nonetheless attainable to trace community participant interactions. Customers can privately coinjoin utilizing a trusted celebration earlier than broadcasting, nonetheless, this introduces a 3rd celebration who might then later promote that information on, so it’s removed from a really perfect answer.

Coinjoins mixed with confidential transactions nonetheless, does present an ample degree of privateness over the present state of affairs. The common person doesn’t have the time, sources or know how one can setup such a monitoring system. This doesn’t imply privateness is to not be pursued, for one, MW does not truly use addresses, as a substitute worth is transferred by including one-time outputs to a transaction. In flip offering larger privateness because it turns into inconceivable to re-use addresses.

One good take away is that it’s unlikely incumbent exchanges will delist Litecoin as a consequence of regulatory situation individuals have raised and hopefully extra individuals will start to grasp the character of MW. Full fungability remains to be a purpose to purpose for going ahead and is somthing Lee awknowledges stating:

“There’s a number of work to be achieved. Privateness and fungability will likely be an ongoing battle.”





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